Just a quick heads up, this episode contains some sensitive language and subject matter.

Welcome to Hear Me Out.

I'm your host Celeste Headley.

Workplaces around the country are reckoning with what it means to be a truly diverse,

equitable, and inclusive workplace.

It's a movement that's existed since the Civil Rights Movement started gaining traction,

but you'll note that hostile workplaces very much still exist.

If you work or you go to school, you've probably had to sit through a DEI training, and

you, like many other people, have probably wondered what the point is of all these buzzwords

and chief diversity officers isn't even working.

Our guest today argues, no, and that it's time to change course before workplaces accidentally

make things worse.

They say the word diversity a lot, especially in public.

Secretly deep down inside, they don't want to change a thing because the system is

working just fine for them as it currently is.

CEO and entrepreneur Cindy Gallup joins us on Hear Me Out in just a moment.

Stay with us.

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