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Hear Me Out: Secession Could Be A Good Thing

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… the case for breaking up the union. Frank Buckley, professor at George Mason University and author of American Secession, makes a case for allowing states to peacefully secede — not just in the interest of preventing another civil war, but in hopes of creating a happier, more functional society for us all. Podcast production by Maura Currie You can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/hearmeoutplus for just $15 a month for your first three months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hear Me Out.

0:02.4

I'm your host Celeste Headley.

0:04.5

So what if Session wasn't the third rail of politics?

0:08.6

It's safe to say the last time it was tried on US soil, it didn't go well.

0:14.1

More soldiers died in the Civil War than in the Revolutionary War, World War I, World

0:18.4

War II, and the Korean War combined.

0:21.7

And things have not been sunshine and daisies since then.

0:25.3

So if the S word happened again, could it end up being a good thing?

0:29.3

Our guest today argues, yes.

0:31.7

Bigness is badness, and we're a big country.

0:34.4

Smaller countries are happier, less corrupt.

0:37.9

That argues for looking carefully at the possibility of becoming a smaller country.

0:43.6

Writer and Professor Frank Buckley joins us on Hear Me Out in just a moment.

0:47.9

Stay with us.

0:49.3

We're back on Hear Me Out.

0:56.7

I'm Celeste Headley.

0:58.2

In the past weeks and months, there have been rare but increasingly loud calls for a, well,

1:04.4

surprising solution to our political divide.

1:07.2

Marjorie Taylor Greene is among the most high-profile people talking about this.

1:11.3

She tweeted on February 20th, we need a national divorce.

1:15.3

We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.

1:19.9

Everyone I talk to says this.

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