Hear Me Out: A Little Racism Can Be A Good Thing

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4.6 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… Racism Lite. Racial politics is responsible for a lot of ugliness, in the United States and around the world. Humans want, and even need, to sort themselves into categories — and sometimes, that tribalism yields as much good as it can bad. So do we always need to be a melting pot? Writer Damon Young joins us to make the case that we’re all racist, and there’s no reason to pretend otherwise. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can now email the show: [email protected] Podcast production by Maura Currie You can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/hearmeoutplus for just $15 a month for your first three months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Hear Me Out.
0:02.9	I'm Celeste Headley.
0:03.9	Look, if you're listening to this show, you can probably agree with the basic idea that
0:09.0	racism is bad.
0:10.8	It's not exactly an unpopular opinion.
0:13.6	We know that racism, both systemic and personal, is responsible for a lot of problems in society
0:20.4	and has been for a long time.
0:22.3	We hear a lot about being anti-racist and addressing our internal biases and making sure
0:27.9	all of our spaces are diverse, intersectional, inclusive.
0:32.5	None of this is news to you, I'm sure.
0:34.3	But what if someone told you that actually a little bit of racism deployed in the right
0:39.2	way?
0:40.2	Can be a good thing.
0:42.6	I think I'm just putting a name to a thing that we already do.
0:46.7	And I think the idea that we have to be this perpetual melting pot is over correction.
0:52.9	Writer Damon Young joins us to make the case for racism light in just a moment.
0:57.6	Stay with us.
1:01.9	Welcome back to Hear Me Out.
1:03.6	I'm Celeste Headley.
1:06.3	The Negro Steel is not free.
1:10.1	100 years later.
1:12.9	The life of the Negro is still sadly crippled.
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