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🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 123 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I was alone on a beach and I was just looking at the sun going down over the water. |
| 0:07.0 | It was incredibly beautiful. |
| 0:09.0 | And suddenly it was as if I wasn't looking at the scene in front of me. |
| 0:15.0 | I was part of it. |
| 0:17.0 | It was as if the me that could look at the world and see it as separate just switched off. |
| 0:26.9 | And in its place was a sense of total belonging, just being part of everything. |
| 0:36.1 | Hey guys, how you doing? I hope you're having a good week so far. My name is Dr. |
| 0:41.2 | Ronan Chatterjee, and this is my podcast, Feel Better, Live More. Do you ever feel as if you're too |
| 0:51.1 | busy to meditate or that you're simply not very good at it. |
| 0:56.2 | Well, this is something that so many people experience, |
| 0:59.6 | yet today's guest believes that this is only because of a fundamental misunderstanding |
| 1:04.3 | about what meditation really is. |
| 1:08.7 | Henry Shookman is an authorised Zen Master and spiritual director of the Mountain Cloud Zen |
| 1:14.5 | Centre in Santa Fe, New Mexico. |
| 1:17.7 | Over the years, Henry has taught meditation at organizations, including Google, Harvard |
| 1:23.1 | Business School and the SELIN Institute, and he's also the co-founder of the Way Meditation |
| 1:29.1 | App, which offers a unique pathway of training designed to help people deepen their practice. |
| 1:36.2 | Henry is also an award-winning poet and the author of several books, including his latest |
| 1:41.7 | original love, The Four Inns on the Path of Awakening, |
| 1:46.9 | which explores meditation as a path to compassion, healing, and presence. |
| 1:52.4 | In this quite wonderful conversation, we explore the idea that meditation is not about success |
| 1:59.5 | or failure, but actually about rediscovering love. |
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