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This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Bachelor. Gordon Chang. At Gordon G. Chang is with me,

my colleague and co-host and friend. Ukraine, North Korea, both require a lot of attention

from Bruce Bechtel.

He teaches at Angelo State University a professor, but most importantly, he's the author

most recently of rogue allies, the strategic partnership between Iran and North Korea.

And before that, he was the author of a book about North Korea spreading its destruction throughout the developing world, Africa, the Middle East, everywhere they can make a buck.

But we've gotten to the point now where North Korea is talking directly to Moscow and Beijing about what it wants.

And there is a report, most recently, that what North Korea wants is nuclear power technology

for a submarine fleet.

Bruce, a very good day to you.

This is, they've up their game, Bruce.

They're going for boomers.

What do we know about that technology they're going to get from Russia?

Good evening to you.

Good evening, John, and good evening, Gordon.

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