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HEADLINE: Obamacare Subsidies Trigger Government Shutdown Debate GUEST NAME: Michael Toth SUMMARY: Michael Toth explains that the current government shutdown debate centers on extending two expensive Biden-era Obamacare subsidies. These changes allow indi

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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HEADLINE: Obamacare Subsidies Trigger Government Shutdown Debate GUEST NAME: Michael Toth SUMMARY: Michael Toth explains that the current government shutdown debate centers on extending two expensive Biden-era Obamacare subsidies. These changes allow individuals earning over 400% of the federal poverty line to receive subsidies and provide 100% coverage for the near-poor. The original Obamacare cross-subsidy structure failed because young, healthy individuals found premiums too high. Toth advocates deregulation, such as allowing insurance companies to charge lower, risk-adjusted rates and enabling single business owners to use Professional Employer Organizations (PEOs) for cheaper coverage.

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0:00.0

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0:04.1

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0:17.9

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0:30.1

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:37.3

I welcome Michael Toth, director of research for the Civitas Institute, the University of Texas at Austin,

0:38.2

writing most recently at Civitas Outlook about what we're witnessing in Washington right now, the shutdown.

0:45.5

What is it about?

0:46.8

Is it about the ability to fire people from the Department of Commerce?

0:50.3

No.

0:51.4

Is it about Donald Trump's popularity?

1:10.3

No. It's about Obamacare. Total revelation to me, and I welcome Michael to help me understand how the ghost from the past, this would be the Obama administration, is still with us and more expensive than ever.

1:12.8

Michael, a very good evening to you.

1:15.2

Obamacare was then, but now it's now.

1:16.6

It is back.

1:18.0

Some things happen.

1:21.5

One part of Congress wants to extend subsidies.

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