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I'm John Batchel.

And Serhi Polkrie's new book is Nuclear Folly,

a history of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

We come to a moment, a pause in the crisis at hand

in the White House, to ask Nikita Khrushchev, who was he at this moment?

Professor, my growing up and our growing up, Khrushchev was emphasized as something of a large

clownish character, banging his shoe at the United Nations. But he was bloody-minded. He was successful.

He was a peasant. And he was a powerful actor, often telling crude proverbs and overwhelming

the better educated in the more ideological presidium. However, what was he to Jack Kennedy?

What was their history together that comes to this crisis in 62?

Well, first of all about Nikita Khrushchev.

He was really mistook to be a clown by many people who dealt with him.

But the most important thing about Nikita Khrusha is that he became successor to Joseph Stalin.

He not only survived under Joseph Stalin for decades, but he also was able to outsmart and then eventually to kill the chief secret policeman of Joseph Stalin, his name was Lovrenti Beria.

So it was a very, very shrewd and experienced and kind of politician and political leader.

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