**HEADLINE:** China's Covert Strategic Support for Russia Fuels NATO Border Tensions **GUEST NAME:** **Victoria Coates** **SUMMARY:** **China** is actively supporting **Russia's** efforts to destabilize **NATO's** eastern flank, particularly through t
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🗓️ 18 September 2025
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GUEST NAME: Victoria Coates
SUMMARY: China is actively supporting Russia's efforts to destabilize NATO's eastern flank, particularly through the Polish-Belarusian border, by pushing migrants and using proxies. This "partnership without limits," declared by Xi and Putin, aims to keep the United States entangled in European conflicts, preventing a focus on East Asia. Poland, however, remains resolute and is strengthening its defenses. China covertly aids Russia in destabilizing NATO via incidents on the Polish-Belarusian border, pushing migrants and using drones. This "partnership without limits" between Xi and Putin aims to keep the US preoccupied in Europe and the Middle East, preventing a focus on East Asia. Despite this, Poland, led by President Karol Nawrocki, remains resolute, strengthening its defenses and economy.
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| 0:24.0 | This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batsworth Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague |
| 0:29.4 | in co-host and friend, and we're very pleased to welcome our colleague, Victoria Coates, |
| 0:34.6 | vice president of the Heritage Foundation, former Deputy National Security Advisor. |
| 0:39.8 | Victoria, a very good day to you. I go immediately to the Polish-Belarussian border. |
| 0:46.2 | Why this is critical these last days is we had that odd incident of drones crossing the border, |
| 0:53.2 | said to be an accident by those who speak out of Moscow. |
| 0:57.3 | At the same time, there is for some time been questions about that border because of migration. |
| 1:03.9 | And now there's news that the foreign minister of Poland is looking to speak to the foreign minister of China, that would be Wang Yi, about the China connection to a border being crossed by undocumented or purposefully misled migrants coming into Poland. |
| 1:24.8 | I mention all this because Poland's reinforced that border recently and |
| 1:29.2 | closed it because of Zapat, but I'm surprised that China's in the mix. Is this understood |
| 1:36.4 | in Warsaw to be talked to China because Russia's the problem or is Russia doing China's bid? |
| 1:43.4 | It's a confusing mess of adversaries. Good evening |
| 1:46.2 | to you, Victoria. Well, good evening, John. I might embrace the and on that one, and it is a tangled |
| 1:53.5 | web of adversaries that are acting in concert against NATO, ultimately against the United States. |
| 2:00.2 | In Poland, it happens to be on the front line. |
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