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HEADLINE: AI Regulation Debate: Premature Laws vs. Emerging Norms GUEST NAME: Kevin Frazier SUMMARY: Kevin Frazier critiques the legislative rush to regulate AI, arguing that developing norms might be more effective than premature laws. He notes that bill

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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HEADLINE: AI Regulation Debate: Premature Laws vs. Emerging Norms GUEST NAME: Kevin Frazier SUMMARY: Kevin Frazier critiques the legislative rush to regulate AI, arguing that developing norms might be more effective than premature laws. He notes that bills like California's AB 1047, which demands factual accuracy, fundamentally misunderstand AI's generative nature. Imposing vague standards, as seen in New York's RAISE Act, risks chilling innovation and preventing widespread benefits, like affordable legal or therapy tools. Frazier emphasizes that AI policy should be grounded in empirical data rather than speculative fears.
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I'm John Batch with my good colleague, Kevin Fraser, who's my eyes on AI and the law.

0:30.2

Brave new world. So we have recommendations early from Kevin in his essay for Civitas Outlook.

0:36.8

This is the University of Texas Civitas Institute at Austin.

0:41.5

Kevin, you're recommending not get in front of this, but wait.

0:46.7

Premature legislative commands.

0:49.5

We've given two examples, California, New York.

0:52.1

Are there other states that are also jumping into this,

0:55.5

and do we have any understanding that they're coordinating between themselves?

1:00.4

There are numerous states, John, that are rushing to regulate AI without doing what I would

1:06.0

regard as basic good public policy, which is to say actively measuring the costs and the benefits of a new

1:13.6

technology. So in Colorado, for example, we've seen that the state legislature there rushed to

1:18.8

pass one of the most comprehensive and far-reaching pieces of AI legislation. Now, the legislature

1:25.0

realized, whoa, we went way too fast. We don't know what we're doing with respect to how this law is actually going to be implemented and how it's going to alter AI innovation. And now they're continuing to postpone enforcement of that law as a result. Similarly, in Illinois, we saw that there was a ban imposed on the use of AI therapy tools.

1:46.3

And while that may sound fine and dandy, we're not paying enough attention to the fact that

1:52.1

AI use changes on an individual basis and changes day after day as the technology improves.

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