So we had somewhere between 50 and 100 million, but that's not sufficient in a long, you know,

the minimum you need 500 million to a billion to make it a long-term business, sustainable business.

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Hey folks. My guest today is Robert Corwin.

He's got a wide array of data science experience in many industries.

Today's the co-founder of Austin Artificial Intelligence,

a data science, machine learning, and AI joint venture service clients, which services clients

in the technology, financial, and industrial sectors. Before this, he was co-founder

an EVA Capital, a quant hedge fund, which traded long, short, factor strategies, and U.S.

equities. All right, you're ready? Take us to the top? Yes, sir. All right, man.

How did you get out of the, you know, the hedge fund space just sounds so cool and fun.

Now you're sort of more in traditional SaaS, huh? But what made you walk away from the hedge fund world?

Well, to be perfectly honest, I started my own hedge fund, and we didn't raise enough capital

to make it work. So that's, I could spin it, but that's the honest answer. But, you know, what I realized at

the time was that the same time I have been doing in quant finance for so long is now very

prevalent outside the finance industry, right? So I would say finance and defense have been doing

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