Welcome to The Investigation. I'm Chris Vlasto, senior executive producer here at ABC News.

I'm joined by my colleagues, John Santucci and Matt Mosque, both senior reporters, on the Trump

investigation. Today we actually have our first journalist on the podcast, Axios National Political

Reporter Jonathan Swan, whose interview with President Trump's senior advisor and son-in-law,

Jared Kushner, making waves across the political sphere.

Jonathan, this is a big get.

Before we get into talking about the clips, why did Jared Kushner do this interview with you?

My sense is he's gotten through the Mueller report. By the way, I don't know exactly why he's doing it.

I asked him and he didn't really give much of an answer. But my sense is he got through the Mueller report.

You know, a lot of people speculating he was going to be

indicted and I think he felt vindicated after the report and probably wants to answer some of the

questions that have been hanging over him for the first two years. And there were no ground rules

for this interview, right? There was no area you could or could not ask?

I've never done an interview with ground rules, so I don't know. Of course not. No.

There were at times when you read the interview, it's one thing. But when you watch it, that he didn't totally feel, I don't know if it's comfortable is the right word.

I mean, did you feel that during the interview or not?

I mean, to some extent, look, he's a, Jarrah Kushner is a very private person.

I mean, we did, it was two sessions, right?

We did one at his home and one at the White House or the executive office building.

And, you know, the interesting thing was the part where he was least

comfortable was actually when it got, when it was personal, you know, with things about, frankly,

what I would refer to as softball questions about his family, things like that. He did not want

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