He’s Gay. She’s Straight. They’re Newlyweds.

Modern Love

The New York Times

Nytimes, Redemption, Society & Culture, New York Times, Love, Essay, Storytelling, Loss, Nyt

4.4 • 8.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

When Jacob Hoff and Samantha Greenstone met, they became instant best friends. Then, even though Jacob was gay, they realized that their feelings for each other were evolving beyond the platonic, and they decided to give romance a try. On this episode, Hoff and Greenstone tell Anna Martin, host of “Modern Love,” how their love gave him the courage to come out to his conservative family. They also explain that when they decided to get married, they realized they’d have to get used to clarifying their commitment again and again. You can read Jacob and Samantha’s Mini-Vows profile in the Styles section. How to submit a Modern Love Essay to The New York Times How to submit a Tiny Love Story

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0:00.0	Love now and more.
0:02.9	Love was stronger than anything.
0:06.4	And I love you more than anything.
0:10.1	What is love?
0:10.9	There's to love.
0:11.7	Love.
0:12.9	From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.
0:17.7	This is Modern Love.
0:19.7	Every week, we bring you stories about love, lust,
0:23.0	heartbreak, and all the messiness of relationships. Now, typically, these conversations come from
0:28.7	the Modern Love column. But today, we were inspired by the Vow's section of the paper,
0:33.3	and we're talking to a pair of newlyweds, Jacob Hoff and Samantha Greenstone.
0:40.6	Right away, the details of their wedding stuck out to me.
0:44.8	Like, for example, the song Jacob chose to walk down the aisle to.
0:49.3	I wanted to come down to the Phantom of the Opera.
0:53.5	There's this moment, this woman just screams, and it's like,
0:57.2	dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
0:59.7	And I was like, that's what needs to happen as I appear in a mask.
1:05.1	And then Samantha also wanted to put her own spin on the wedding.
1:09.0	I love Titanic.
1:10.4	There was a point where I wanted to have
1:12.3	a sinking Titanic on top of our wedding cake, but my mother and the wedding planner said, no,
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