4.6 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Last month the Trump administration deported, without due process, 238 Venezuelan migrants to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador. The White House says that these people have ties to a Venezuelan gang but has provided little evidence to support this claim. Most of them do not have criminal histories. Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu sat down with New Yorker staff writer Jonathan Blitzer, who has covered immigration for more than a decade, to discuss the possible implications of these deportations and the muted resistance to the Trump administration’s immigration agenda.
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | This is In Conversation from Apple News. |
0:06.4 | I'm Shmita Basu. |
0:08.3 | Today, Trump's immigration agenda. |
0:14.5 | Last month, the Trump administration deported 238 Venezuelan migrants from the U.S. to a prison in El Salvador. |
0:25.1 | They had no court hearings about their deportation orders, no chance to call a lawyer, no due process. |
0:31.0 | The administration says that these migrants have ties to a Venezuelan gang, but has provided little evidence to support these claims. |
0:38.6 | In the weeks since the deportations, we've learned that most of these men do not have criminal |
0:43.1 | histories. One was deported by mistake. In a recent interview on 60 Minutes, photojournalist |
0:49.4 | Philip Hallsinger described the conditions where these men are being held in a maximum security prison in El Salvador, known as Sikot. |
0:57.7 | Life in the cell in Saccat is the definition of austerity. |
1:03.2 | The bunks are steel. |
1:05.0 | There are no blankets. |
1:06.4 | There are no pillows. |
1:08.2 | There are no books. |
1:09.5 | There's no television. |
1:13.0 | Zero outside communication. |
1:14.8 | Nothing goes out. Nothing comes in. |
1:20.4 | The men were deported to this prison after President Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act, |
1:26.8 | a 1798 law that gives the president broad authority to detain and deport immigrants who are living in the U.S. |
1:29.7 | lawfully, but who are deemed enemies of the country. |
1:34.3 | This law has been invoked three times in U.S. history, only during wartime. |
1:41.0 | The Brennan Center describes it as an overbroad law that even in wartime may violate constitutional rights, |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Apple News, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Apple News and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.