I spent 14 days with the monks, 14 days with the Amish, and then I spent three weeks with my family without a phone.

My family got to experience some of the benefits, really all of the benefits of what I'd been learning.

And I'll say that integration back into family life and Nashville life.

Anyone can not look at their phone living with monks and Amish, but get back into your real world.

And that became more difficult,

right? But my kids, man, they just, I'll never forget my daughter looking at me. She was 17 at the time. And her saying to me, Dad, this is the purest dad I've ever had. And I was like, wow.

Like, she's just like, you're just so attentive and I really love this, you know.

It made me not want to turn my phone back on.

I'd fallen so in love with, again, with wondering and noticing and savoring and this lost art

form of being human that I didn't want the phone to take it away.

We all have the ability to gain some of our life back.

We all have the opportunity to do some of our life back. We all have the opportunity to do that.

And why in the world would we not want to do that?

Okay, so maybe it's time for a little communal confession.

Our lives are lived around and often on and through screens.

The typical person spends around seven hours a day on screens, four and a half of those on their phones. Ever wonder what

that was actually doing to you or what it was taking from you, like your relationships, your

ability to be present and be human even,

or whether there was something that you could do about it without becoming a hermit on a deserted

island, then you're going to want to hear from today's guest, Carlos Whitaker.

Carlos is an author, podcaster, global speaker who has mastered the art of creating spaces for meaningful

conversation. But when his screen time notification revealed that he was spending a whopping

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