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Question Everything

He quit journalism to fight authoritarianism. How’s that going?

Question Everything

Brian Reed

News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Documentary, Technology

4.6707 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Last year, we did an episode with Barton Gellman, who talked about the war games he was running with high-level military leaders and government officials to prepare for a second Trump term. 

 

A bunch of you have been asking us to have Barton back, to find out what he’s doing, now that the second Trump term is here. So we called him up.

 

Barton works at the Brennan Center for Justice.

 

“Question Everything” is a production of KCRW and Placement Theory.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, y'all.

0:04.2

This is Question Everything from KCRW in Placement Theory.

0:06.9

I'm Brian Reed.

0:07.8

And today we're joined by somebody that a bunch of you have been asking us pretty urgently to get back on the show.

0:13.0

Someone who, when we had him on last fall, was dedicating himself to preparing for this very moment,

0:19.3

a moment when Donald Trump would be trying to overpower the Constitution.

0:23.6

I'm a little boldover

0:24.9

by the pace of events

0:27.8

and by the tornado

0:30.0

of illegal actions

0:32.4

by the president.

0:34.6

Barton Gellman on the front lines.

0:37.0

Stick around.

0:44.3

Over the last month, a bunch of you have asked us to follow up with Barton Gellman.

0:48.9

Barton's a legendary investigative reporter.

0:51.1

He's won three Pulitzer Prizes.

0:52.8

He worked for the Washington Post for years, covering national security and other beats. He was one of the reporters Edward Snowden came to with the massive NSA leak. And then he reported on threats to our election system for the Atlantic. We had Barton on the show back in September before the election. If you haven't heard that episode, go check it out. It's one of my favorites. It's in our feed called The Journalist and the Firefighter. In that episode, we told the story of how a little

1:15.4

more than a year ago, Barton decided to suddenly quit journalism to join the Brennan Center for

1:20.5

Justice, a nonpartisan nonprofit. Barton joined the Brennan Center with a very specific mission

1:26.7

to prepare for a possible second Trump term.

1:30.3

He wanted to strategize ways for how to legally and tactically restrain Donald Trump from taking authoritarian acts as president.

1:38.1

And he'd lost faith in journalism's effectiveness at doing that.

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