He Lives Overseas, But His 3 Rentals Cash Flow While He Sleeps

Real Estate Rookie

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Entrepreneurship, Education, Investing, Business, How To

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🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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You don’t need hundreds of rental units to design the life you want. Today’s guest is busy traveling the world and only wants a handful of rental properties that can pay him while he sleeps. Since he’s unable to put roots down in any one market, he’s built reliable teams that keep everything running smoothly. If he can do it, YOU can too! Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! Nearly 20 years ago, David Epstein became an “accidental” landlord, despite having a mountain of law school debt and very little knowledge about real estate. His first property? A small New York co-op that he was forced to rent out after being sent overseas. By growing his network, he was able to keep the property occupied and managed from thousands of miles away. This opened David’s eyes to the possibilities of real estate investing, but rather than scaling his real estate portfolio rapidly, David has taken a more strategic approach—picking strong long-term markets and choosing his properties carefully. Today, he owns three rentals, and as he nears retirement, he hopes to have five or six cash-flowing properties to help fund his lifestyle. Tune in to learn exactly how he plans to do it! In This Episode We Cover: How David built a rental portfolio that pays him while living overseas Getting into real estate at a more affordable price with the “co-op” strategy How to get your spouse on board with your real estate investing goals Scaling a real estate portfolio that funds your retirement lifestyle The pros and cons of investing in turnkey rental properties And So Much More! Links from the Show Ashley's BiggerPockets Profile Tony's BiggerPockets Profile Join BiggerPockets for FREE Real Estate Rookie Facebook Group Real Estate Rookie YouTube Ask Your Question for a Future Rookie Reply “Like” Real Estate Rookie on Facebook Follow Real Estate Rookie on Instagram Join us at the BiggerPockets Conference October 2-4 in Orlando. Buy tickets Sign Up for the Real Estate Rookie Newsletter Property Manager Finder Living Overseas Can Help You Earn More Money in Real Estate Over the Long Run—Here’s How Grab the Book, Long-Distance Real Estate Investing David's BiggerPockets Profile David’s LinkedIn Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-704. Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	He took out a mountain of law school debt, about a 440 square foot apartment he could barely rent out, and then his government shipped him overseas before he could do anything with it.
0:12.0	Today's guest turned that accidental start into a multi-property U.S. portfolio, managed remotely from the U.S. embassies around the world, including right now in Vienna,
0:23.1	Austria. And what's wild is that the skills he uses to analyze foreign governments, well,
0:28.4	he's used them to build his buybox. And we'll get into all of that, the diplomacy, the debt,
0:32.9	the 12-year kind of hiatus, and the tactical playbook for investing when you can never visit your
0:39.3	market. This is the Real Estate Rookie Podcast. I'm Ashley Care. And I'm Tony J. Robinson.
0:49.6	With that, let's give a big warm welcome to Dave. Dave, thank you for joining us in the podcast
0:53.3	today. Super happy to be here. Really appreciate the opportunity. Thanks.
0:57.3	Now, before we get into any details and further into your portfolio, just kind of give us the
1:01.9	scorecard. Just kind of give us the scorecard. How many doors? How many years since you
1:07.2	started really getting serious about investing in real estate. And you're calling in from
1:12.2	Austria today. How did you get there? So right now, we're sitting actually only on three doors.
1:20.6	We previously had four. We recently sold one back in 2024. And we're now in the process of
1:30.7	reacquiring a fourth property as we try to rebuild the portfolio towards our end state goals. So how we got here and how we got serious really
1:38.8	started back in 2017 after I had had, as you mentioned, a 12-year hiatus. I was an accidental landlord at first,
1:46.7	which is what probably led me to bigger pockets, led me to thinking about real estate, but
1:51.5	life, career, things like that got in the way. And then from 2017 to 2019, I got my second
1:59.9	property, 2023. I did a cash out refi and then I bought the fourth
2:05.4	property. And then as I mentioned in 2024, we sold that fourth and we're looking to pivot to
2:09.8	sort of use that money into a new fourth property as we go back into growth stage.
2:15.8	Talk about long distance investing. And we'll get into that here as we go through your story.
2:20.0	But I mean, I guess take us back to 2005, right?
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