'He absolutely betrayed me': Steve Schmidt tells all about John McCain
The Conversation with Dasha Burns
POLITICO
4.0 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | There's an old proverb that I'm sure you've heard before. |
| 0:06.3 | No man is a hero to his valet. |
| 0:10.1 | Steve Schmidt was not exactly John McCain's valet, but he was the political equivalent. |
| 0:16.3 | His closest advisor. |
| 0:18.5 | And John McCain was Steve's hero. |
| 0:22.9 | Everything about him that was big was big, everything that was heroic was heroic. |
| 0:28.5 | McCain, who died in 2018, was one of the most celebrated politicians in modern American |
| 0:33.8 | history. |
| 0:34.8 | And Steve was the man by his side through the epic 2008 presidential campaign. |
| 0:39.9 | He was not a man of moderation, at all. |
| 0:44.1 | There were no pastels in there. |
| 0:47.8 | It's a story of disillusionment and regret. |
| 0:51.3 | Steve played a role in elevating Sarah Palin to the national stage when John McCain |
| 0:56.1 | picked her as his running mate. |
| 0:58.6 | And over time, Steve came to see Palin and the followers she attracted as the precursor |
| 1:04.0 | to Donald Trump and his movement, which, if you know anything about Steve these days, |
| 1:08.9 | has been the political force he spent the last seven years fighting against. |
| 1:15.4 | As much as Steve has spoken out against Palinism and what he believes he represents, he |
| 1:20.0 | didn't challenge the legend of John McCain, the person who actually picked her. |
| 1:25.6 | But privately, over the course of the 2008 campaign, he had grown to believe that the gap |
| 1:32.0 | between the myth of John McCain and the reality of John McCain was so wide that he could |
| 1:38.4 | actually no longer support McCain for president. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from POLITICO, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of POLITICO and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

