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All right, so this is what I told you about when I released the last podcast.

There's going to be a couple of these coming through

your feed. And when you see HDP, BJJ, you're going to know that this is an interview I did with

somebody into Jiu-Jitsu world. And if you don't have enough time to listen to it, I understand it.

I know I've got a handful of upland hunters that do Jiu-Jitsu,

so they're probably going to be like, oh, great, Ron.

I love hearing stories.

But I'll tell you that the nine years that I've been doing this sport,

this exercise, it's the only thing I can come

close to in the Upland world when it comes to meeting new people.

I told you when I did the last intro, I'm going out to Kansas to hunt with some people

I've never met.

I met one person on a Zoom room, on a Zoom call,

never met the rest of them. And I totally know that when I get there, we're going to be on

the same page. And I will tell you that this school that I go to Academy 231 in Muskegon, Michigan,

is just like meeting everybody at hunting camp.

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