HBM069: Redwoods of the In-World
Here Be Monsters
Here Be Monsters Podcast
4.6 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 7 December 2016
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Ariadne, Jacqueline, North, and others unnamed are all part of the same system. They share a single body. They take turns “fronting” the body, controlling it. And when they’re not fronting, the system members are free to roam an infinite landscape, a pocket reality that they call the “in-world”.
Together, they go to work every day, spend time with friends and lovers, go to shows, play video games, and live many aspects of a typical life. But when multiple people with varying interests, social skills, and gender identities share a single body, some things are tough. It’s tough to live in a world that doesn’t understand you, doesn’t know your secrets, or just wants to diagnose you.
The system members refer to their living situation as being “plural” or “multiple”. Psychiatry calls similar situations Dissociative Identity Disorder. The system members don’t identify with this diagnosis, as it requires the multiplicity to be hinderance. They say it’s the opposite of a hinderance--it’s what lets them survive.
Another perspective on multiplicity can be found in the work of philosopher John Perry. 1978, he published a paper called A Dialogue on Personal Identity and Immortality which critiques popular assumptions of personal identity. This writing was brought to our attention by Barry Lam, the producer of a soon-to-be released philosophy podcast called Hi-Phi Nation.
We mailed our spare recorder to the system’s home in the spring of 2016. Over the course of several months, system members created diary entries and field recordings to share the world that Ari calls too “bright and loud”.
Producer Jeff Emtman did an interview with Jacqueline, where she also described the building process of the in-world, including the creation a spot of reverence within it--a grove of redwood trees modelled on a forest near Oakland.
One day, Jacqueline hopes to move from the city to the wilderness and have dogs. Jacqueline said that there are no current plans to integrate the system.
We found out about Ari, North, Jacqueline et al because we asked for listeners to tell us their secrets. If you have a secret you’d like to share, please get in touch.
Content Advisory: This episode contains a brief description of sexual violence (and casual swearing too, but we don’t usually warn you about that). The description of sexual violence is short and mostly non-graphic. If you don’t want to hear it, you just need to skip ahead about two minutes when you hear us talking about the state of Georgia.
This episode was produced by Jeff Emtman and Bethany Denton. Nick White is HBM’s editor at KCRW.
Music: The Black Spot
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | From KCRW, this is Here Be Monsters. |
| 0:03.0 | Please note that this episode contains a brief description of sexual violence. |
| 0:07.0 | Oh, and a lot of casual swearing too, but we don't normally warn you about that. |
| 0:12.0 | So this description of sexual violence is short |
| 0:14.5 | and it's mostly non-graphic, |
| 0:16.3 | but if you don't want to hear it, |
| 0:17.4 | you just need to skip ahead about two minutes |
| 0:19.4 | when you hear us starting to talk about the state of Georgia. |
| 0:23.0 | Okay, that's it. |
| 0:24.0 | Enjoy the show. |
| 0:29.0 | Hello, this is Ariatine. |
| 0:32.0 | I have just received the recorder in the mail. I just wanted to give maybe a couple first impressions. |
| 0:41.0 | I know this is a terrible spot. I'm sitting on a porch in Los Angeles. |
| 0:45.0 | There's cars, flames, no trains, Los Angeles. It's the Saturday before the 4th of July, and the sun is going down. |
| 0:58.6 | So I imagine some fireworks will be involved at some point later. |
| 1:05.0 | I haven't really thought about what I wanted to say or |
| 1:10.0 | why I was even going to say it at this point. |
| 1:14.0 | This has been a while in the works. |
| 1:17.0 | Like I said, just some unvarnished impressions. This world is bright and loud. |
| 1:27.0 | I've been this way as long as I've been alive, approximately one year, seven months, just about that. |
| 1:47.0 | It's not all good, but it's not all bad. |
| 1:55.0 | And there are times when oblivion seems nicer. |
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