Having "The Body" (w/ Fantasia Royale Gaga)
Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer
Headgum & Nicole Byer
4.9 • 16K Ratings
🗓️ 13 March 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Showgirl and drag queen Fantasia Royale Gaga (DIY Dungeon) joins Nicole to discuss her journey to becoming "The Body". Fantasia shares the realities of her dating life, explaining the difference between a man who is genuinely attracted to trans women versus a chaser just looking to fulfill a fetish. She reveals why she uses Grindr like a social media app, and shares experience building a BDSM dungeon.
Plus, Fantasia opens up about the extreme measures strangers take to sneak photos of her in public, the intrusive questions people ask about her body, and surviving religious trauma from a church that literally laid her on the altar to pray the gay away.
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| 0:00.0 | Want to watch this episode? |
| 0:01.3 | Catch the full video on YouTube. |
| 0:03.3 | Just hit the link in the episode description. |
| 0:07.1 | This is a headgum podcast. |
| 0:10.7 | Who question people about their body? |
| 0:12.7 | And the first question is, does your back hurt? |
| 0:15.5 | It's never, hey, how you doing? |
| 0:18.0 | I swear to you, people come up to me, it's not even a hey, how you doing? They'll look. Does your back hurt? So if I tell you, yeah, what are you going to do? Yeah, you're going to give me some money for a chiropractor? What are you going to do? And actually, my back doesn't hurt. And if it did, I can go downsides. I pay for this. Yes. I literally pay for this. You wanted to look like that. So any moment that it started giving me problems, hey, doctor, less downsides. It's either does your bike hurt or are they real? Those are two questions that everyone wants to know. They don't want to know my name. |
| 0:54.9 | They don't want to know how I'm doing. They don't want to know shit. They don't want to know how I'm doing. |
| 0:57.6 | They don't want to know shit. Those are the only two questions that they ask me. You guys, I find as I get older, it's getting harder and harder to actually wrangle my friends. Everyone is busy, half of them are in relationships, the group chat is a mess. |
| 1:11.1 | And our schedules never line up. |
| 1:12.7 | So when we finally get a weekend on the calendar to... busy, half of them are in relationships, the group chat is a mess. And our schedules never |
| 1:12.1 | line up. So when we finally get a weekend on the calendar to go to Palm Springs, I am not wasting |
| 1:17.6 | it. When time is precious with my friends, a hotel room just doesn't cut it. I want us to really |
| 1:23.4 | live together for the weekend, not be sequestered in little hotel rooms. That's why I always |
| 1:28.7 | look to book a home on Airbnb. I love to have a full kitchen to make our cocktails and our weird |
| 1:34.7 | grilled dinners. I need a private pool and a hot tub all to ourselves and a gorgeous property |
| 1:40.8 | with a view where we could take really cute pictures. Why book a room when you |
| 1:45.0 | can have a whole property? And what's great about Airbnb is they have a list of guest favorites. |
| 1:50.4 | It's a badge on the app that shows the highest rated and most loved homes. It takes the guessing |
| 1:55.4 | game out of it. If it has a badge, I know it's going to be cute. I know it's reliable and I know we're going to have a good time. |
| 2:02.6 | So the next time you travel, book a home on Airbnb to maximize your experience. |
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