We are so glad that you're here because you're choosing to thrive after betrayal trauma or addiction.

Hi, I'm Ashland, the once betrayed.

I'm Kobe, the ones addicted. And I'm Brandonland the once betrayed. I'm Kobe the ones addicted and I'm Brandon the expert

now why am I an expert because I've treated betrayal trauma and addiction for over a decade I

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it's called exactly what I needed. I found National and Kobe after my new boyfriend confessed to me that he had

had grown up with a pornography problem. I wasn't sure where to turn or what I should expect from

our relationship. The first episode that I found was about

feelings that each party feels. I was in tears as I listened knowing that I

wasn't crazy and that it is possible to work through those feelings.

Highly, highly recommend this podcast to anyone and everyone.

It talks about addiction and betrayal in an open and healthy way

and makes the listener feel hope.

Thank you.

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I just, I love that she can listen even though they're not married

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