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The Disclosure Podcast

Have we been overpromised on cell-cultured meat? A journalist reveals what they’ve seen firsthand | In conversation with Jenny Kleeman

The Disclosure Podcast

Ed Winters

Ethics, Politics, Whole Foods, Society & Culture, Education, Animals, Morality, Veganism, Philosophy, Vegan, Plant Based Diet

5.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

How do we compare animal euthanasia versus human euthanasia, do we sometimes actually value animal life over human life, and are we being deceived by Silicon Valley when it comes to cell-cultured meat? In this podcast episode, I sit down with author, journalist and broadcaster Jenny Kleeman to discuss these topics and much more. Jenny Kleeman is a journalist, author and broadcaster. Her long form writing appears in the Guardian, the Sunday Times, and the Financial Times Magazine, and she is a...

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The

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The Welcome to the Disclosure podcast. If you enjoy this episode and the work that I'm doing here,

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then please consider checking out my

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substack where I post regular articles. You can also support my work by becoming a paid member

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of my substack, through which you will also gain access to weekly articles or by making a donation

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through my website. For those of you who do support my work, thank you so much. I am incredibly grateful and appreciate it very much.

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Links for everything can be found in this episode's show notes. Leaving a review for this podcast is also

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really helpful and encourages more people to listen to it. I hope you find this episode interesting and

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informative and thank you for listening.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to this episode of The Disclosure podcast. In today's episode,

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I'm thrilled to say that I'm joined by Jenny Clemen. Jenny Clemen is a journalist,

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broadcaster, and author. Her long form writing can be found in The Guardian, The Sunday Times,

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and the Financial Times Magazine, and she's also a 2025 finalist of the prestigious Allwell Journalism Prize. Jenny Cleman has presented

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for BBC One's Panorama, HBO's Vice News Tonight, and Channel 4's dispatches, and she's also

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made 13 films from across the globe for Channel 4's unreported world.

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Jenny is a regular voice on BBC Radio 4, where she also writes and presents the documentary series The Gift.

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And as well as writing of her substack, the Little Red Notebook, she has so far published two books.

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The first being sex, robots and vegan meat.

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And the second being the price of life.

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So, Jenny, thank you so much for joining me on today's podcast.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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Yes, my absolute pleasure.

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