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Hello and happy Sunday guys. Welcome back to brunch with Desby. Today we are having a little bit of a switch in our schedule. All right. I'm super excited. I don't typically we're talking pop culture. We're talking news. We're talking motherhood. We're talking parents. We're talking adult life. Whatever it may be. And today we're going to get into

a little bit of sex. Shall we say I'm really excited for today because this is an episode I've been waiting to do and when the guests told me that they would come on. I was extremely honored. I've been a fan for years and I think you guys are going to turn into fans as well.

So today you're going to go ahead and meet New York Times best selling authors Vanessa and Zander Marin. She is a sex therapist with 20 years of experience and he is just our regular dude.

Together they wrote sex talks, which is the five conversations that will transform your love life. They are very open. They're a little bit nerdy, but they are very funny and you will be calling them your new best friends in absolutely no time.

They have been very open with sharing the ups and downs in their own relationship while giving you step-by-step techniques to improve yours. You can find them on Instagram at Vanessa and Zander and tune into their own podcast pillow talks for doable sex tips, practical relationship advice, hilarious and honest stories of what really goes on in the bedroom behind closed doors and so much more.

This is truly the sex education talk you wish you had and you might have not gotten with your own parents. So I'm super excited. This is a very, very special podcast for me to share.

We're diving into all things long term relationships, initiating sex and also sex postpartum being parents. How do we navigate that with our partner?

So I'm very excited. Let's hop right into it. Make sure you give this podcast five stars. Write a little review if you like this and as always go support Vanessa in Zander. Have fun. I hope you guys enjoy and we'll be back on track next Sunday.

Hello, I how are you? Oh my gosh, I'm so I'm so much better now. How are you guys?

Great, great. We came. I just read it. We're rated perfectly. I love that for us. How are you guys today? Good. I want to apologize in advance for any distractions. We are fostering a new dog. And so this is it. It's his first time being in the background during the interview. I love that. He's settled in right now. But you're actually you might feel it. Oh yeah, there is. Oh my gosh. Is it a pug?

Yeah, we have. Yes, I know you guys went through a really difficult loss just recently. So I'm glad to see that you guys are opening up your home again. That's so special.

Thank you. Well, I'm so honored. You're here. I have been a sex addict. Let's just call it that for like ever since probably COVID. I started I found you guys are started following you and I was in a postpartum phase and I've mentioned you on the podcast even before.

So a lot of things just really helped me postpartum and like kind of coming back into myself and just also just struggling with what I think a lot of people do and just don't like to talk about. So I'm so like literally I'm so excited to have you guys on my whole audiences. They're like, I can't believe you get the podcast. I'm like, you can't believe it. I can't believe it. So I want to I want to give you guys the floor first.

I guess like how I always kind of start with some guesses just like an elevator pitch. So if I was someone you met in an elevator or you have like 30 seconds with like how would you guys both describe your dynamic.

What you do and now what you do together. So we are Vanessa and Xander Marin. We're a married couple. I'm a licensed sex therapist.

I'm a regular dude. I get to talk about sex with my wife every day, which is pretty cool.

And together we have a business where our focus is helping couples and long-term relationships keep the spark alive.

I absolutely love that 30 seconds. It was even shorter, but like we get it. No, it's perfect. I think that's what attracted me and probably most of your audience. You guys so much is just the openness.

I mean, I think my favorite post and if you guys are listening and do not follow you guys for some reason.

My favorite posts are when you guys do like the try the sex position. And I just laugh at how much fun you guys have in these what some of us might feel uncomfortable trying even pretending.

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