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Hello and welcome to Coffee House shots of spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Katie Balls, Lendron by Isabel Hartman and John Montana, the former Labour advisor.

So we are on day three of the Labour benefits route. Isabel, where are you up to?

Well, there was a shadow cabinet meeting this morning and the noise beforehand

had suggested that some Labour front benches were going to have a go at Keir Starmer

for saying over the weekend that Labour would not scrap the two child limit on child benefit.

That didn't happen. No one spoke out against it at the shadow cabinet meeting which was a

source of discomfort to some of those who were there but also didn't speak out.

And a number of front benches actually spoke in support of the policy including Jonathan Ashworth

who has previously spoken against it and Lisa Nandy.

And in terms of the feeling within the party, I mean things are still, I wouldn't say

fee bra, but things are still very unsettled. There's a feeling amongst back benches who are

very opposed to this that some of the shadow cabinet might have just been keeping quiet

because there is a reshuffle looming and now is not the time to upset the leader.

Others are peeved that there's been a real miscommunication from Keir Starmer

that while he didn't go on to Laura Koon's work's programme to give her the story of this

two child policy, this two child benefit policy, that he didn't answer the question that she posed

in the right way. So their argument is, look, things are going to be really, really difficult

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