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My introduction to John came through his book, Bullies and Saints.

The subtitle is an honest look at the good and evil of Christian history.

So I started listening to it because I listened to books first and then about a third of the way

I just went ahead and bought it. So authors love me, I bought everything twice.

And then I started talking about this book and oftentimes, people on our churches

will say, Andy, what's a good Christian history book to read, but there's so many in any way.

So I started recommending this book and I thought, I would love for our churches to meet you

and hear the content of this book. And then of course, you lived in Australia, but now you lived

in the United States. And so thank you so much for doing this. And real quick, the best way to jump

into this is why did you write this book? Because it's a look at the dark side of Christianity,

but as dark as it has been historically, and even in some cases, currently, you're still a Christian.

So you didn't drive you away, but why would have drove you to write the book?

Well, being a historian by academic training, I already knew the lots of bodies buried

in the Christian history. But increasingly, I found that people who aren't connected with church

think that Christianity has only damaged the world, or that its main influence is negative.

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