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Harvard's Harvey Weinstein Mess

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2019

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Ronald Sullivan joined Harvey Weinstein’s defense team in January. This set off a wave of protests and sit-ins across the Harvard campus asking for the removal of Sullivan as faculty dean at the university. And those student protests worked. On Saturday, Harvard University announced that it was declining to renew the appointments of Ronald Sullivan and his wife, Stephanie Robinson, as faculty deans of Winthrop House. What precedent does this decision set? And is it fair for the university to strip them of their positions?

Guest: Lara Bazelon, an associate professor at the University of San Francisco School of Law.

Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Ethan Brooks.


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0:00.0

Laura Bazelon, sometimes she'll arrive at her office and she'll find these voicemails.

0:09.0

Some of which are obscene, some of which are saying things like, I need to be fired and sat on fire and buried underground.

0:20.0

What's really strange about them is most of the people who leave them are women, and they

0:24.8

talk in these very nice, calm tones.

0:28.0

So it's just kind of eerie.

0:29.7

They're not usually screaming or hostile, which makes them scarier in a way.

0:34.1

Laura's a writer and a lawyer.

0:36.4

She started getting these voicemails because of the work she does,

0:40.1

work she only went public about recently.

0:43.8

I came out to the world, I think, in the most public way that you possibly can,

0:48.7

which is that I wrote an op-ed for the New York Times.

0:52.0

She wrote about the work she does defending men accused of sexual misconduct.

0:56.7

It's why when critics leave her those messages, sometimes they call her a rape apologist.

1:02.3

Sometimes they say she just doesn't care about survivors.

1:05.7

I mean, the invective and just the vicious bile that is directed toward me personally for doing this work is really disturbing.

1:15.8

She's been thinking about these voicemails over the past week as she watches what's going on at Harvard University.

1:22.6

That's where a law professor, his name is Ronald Sullivan, lost his job as a House dean after months of student

1:29.5

protest. What made these students so mad is that Sullivan had agreed to defend accused

1:36.1

rapist Harvey Weinstein in court. It hit close to home because I also represent clients who people find reprehensible.

1:45.9

And the idea that I would be punished in my professional life for doing that felt really scary to me.

1:52.9

So when you see what's happening at Harvard, what do you see?

1:56.6

How do you see it differently than other people?

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