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HARRIS/WALZ CAMPAIGN ADVANCING PRICE CONTROLS: WHAT ALWAYS GOES WRONG? 3/4: Samuelson Friedman: The Battle Over the Free Market. by Nicholas Wapshott .

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🗓️ 19 August 2024

⏱️ 14 minutes

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HARRIS/WALZ CAMPAIGN ADVANCING PRICE CONTROLS: WHAT ALWAYS GOES WRONG? 3/4: Samuelson Friedman: The Battle Over the Free Market. by Nicholas Wapshott .

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From the author of Keynes Hayek, the next great duel in the history of economics.

In 1966 two columnists joined Newsweek magazine. Their assignment: debate the world of business and economics. Paul Samuelson was a towering figure in Keynesian economics, which supported the management of the economy along lines prescribed by John Maynard Keynes’s General Theory. Milton Friedman, little known at that time outside of conservative academic circles, championed “monetarism” and insisted the Federal Reserve maintain tight control over the amount of money circulating in the economy.

In Samuelson Friedman, the author and journalist Nicholas Wapshott brings narrative verve and puckish charm to the story of these two giants of modern economics, their braided lives and colossal intellectual battles.


Samuelson, a forbidding technical genius, grew up a child of relative privilege and went on to revolutionize macroeconomics. He wrote the best-selling economics textbook of all time, famously remarking "I don’t care who writes a nation’s laws—or crafts its advanced treatises—if I can write its economics textbooks." His friend and adversary for decades, Milton Friedman, studied the Great Depression and with Anna Schwartz wrote the seminal books The Great Contraction and A Monetary History of the United States. Like Friedrich Hayek before him, Friedman found fortune writing a treatise, Capitalism and Freedom, that yoked free markets and libertarian politics in a potent argument that remains a lodestar for economic conservatives today.

In Wapshott’s nimble hands, Samuelson and Friedman’s decades-long argument over how—or whether—to manage the economy becomes a window onto one of the longest periods of economic turmoil in the United States. As the soaring economy of the 1950s gave way to decades stalked by declining prosperity and "stagflation," it was a time when the theory and practice of economics became the preoccupation of politicians and the focus of national debate. It is an argument that continues today.

SEPTEMBER 16, 1920 WALL STREET BOMBING

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This is the story of the

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This is CBS I on the world. I'm John Bachelor with Nicholas Wapshaw. His new book is

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Samuelson Friedman, the Battle over the Free Markets.

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This is the story of the 20th century and all of the ups and downs of what was called politely

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the business cycle.

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We know it today as recession, sometimes depression. The idea that there will be

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panics in the market, prices will spike, and businesses will fail, and then we begin again again the polite way of talking about its

0:34.4

creative destruction but we're talking about two men observing this with the

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vantage of writing alternate columns in Newsweek magazine with a circulation in the early

0:44.1

1960s of 14 million I don't know where it topped but we're going to plunge to the

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late

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1960s with the election of Richard Nixon because Milton Friedman following Nicholas's

0:56.5

reporting had this wonderful theory of monetarism and he wanted to put it into action. Milton Friedman's monetarism is very wordy.

1:07.0

Is there one way we can say it that will satisfy Richard Nixon whom we're about to talk to?

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Well, he didn't convince Nixon because Nixon was very slippery.

1:19.0

And so whatever, Nixon understood everything.

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Friedman said he was the smartest president he ever met,

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and he'd met all of the post-war presidents almost

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far from maybe Truman.

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But Friedman's idea was quite simple, and that is you can't purge inflation from the system, but if you

1:37.0

just allow the amount of new money in the system provided by the Federal Reserve to come to a trickle,

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that is if you get the

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