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Killer Psyche

Harold Shipman, Part II: The Original Doctor Death

Killer Psyche

Wondery | Treefort Media

True Crime, Exhibit C

4.64.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In the second half of this two-parter, former FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong digs into the case of Harold Frederick Shipman: The Original Dr. Death. A prominent doctor in the UK during the late 1990s, Dr. Shipman murdered at least 230 of his patients, mostly elderly women. Candice examines the factors that could have made a man that was sworn to do no harm, take so many lives.


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0:00.0

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0:10.0

A listener note, this episode contains adult content and is not suitable for everyone. Please be advised.

0:18.0

This is the second part of our two episodes on Harold Shipman. So if you have not listened to last week's episode, please do that first.

0:29.0

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0:48.0

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1:01.0

The 3-Lit Word is back for another season exclusively on Amazon Music. We ask people to bring in three words of meaning and significance to their lives and we use that to spring more of the conversation.

1:18.0

And then at the end of the show we ask them for a word that they'll be happy never to hear again.

1:22.0

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1:31.0

Manchester Taxi Driver, John Shaw, had made friends with a good number of his regular clientele, which is why when 21 of his customers died suddenly within a three year period, he became concerned.

1:51.0

Although these clients who were all women were not young, they were all in good health. The only connection he could find was that they all shared the same doctor, Harold Frederick Shipman.

2:10.0

The driver did not take his suspicions to the medical board because he, quote, had no confidence they would investigate. He also did not go to the police because he feared they would simply dismiss him.

2:28.0

And when John expressed his concerns to his wife, she advised him not to say anything. Why? Because the doctor was well respected in the community and she did not want her husband to get sued for slander.

2:46.0

But John should have trusted his gut.

2:49.0

By 1995, the year John began to feel that something strange was going on, Shipman had killed 28 people with poison, bringing the number of murders he had committed so far to 127.

3:08.0

And by the time he was arrested on October 5, 1998, the good doctor was suspected of murdering 132 more.

3:22.0

In August of 1998, after hearing that Shipman was under suspicion, John Shaw finally reached out to law enforcement who did not dismiss him.

3:37.0

But John still carried the guilt of not reporting it sooner, believing that he might have been able to save some of his customers, customers that he considered friends.

3:53.0

However, I understand his reasoning. It is true that most would have found his claims fantastical.

4:01.0

After all, who could ever believe that a doctor whose hypocritical demands that they do know harm purposely caused so much death?

4:16.0

From Wondery and Tree Fort, I'm Candice DeLong and this is the second season of Killer Psych team.

4:46.0

I've spent five decades studying people's minds through my work as an FBI profiler and psychiatric nurse.

4:57.0

I've interviewed dozens of murderers, including serial killers. And the question of why they did it is what I get asked time and time again.

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