Hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast. This is episode number 44. I'm your host, Brooke McCallory,

and this is my co-host, Benjamin. Good, everyone. How are you going? This is a big episode for

the Slow Home podcast. It really is a big episode. mean very excited to to chat to our guest today but

it's also been on the schedule for like four or five months yeah how many times have you had

four starts four times i think yeah i went to record this and this i don't know if if you'd

remember that we'd go back to august year. Yeah, I think the first time...

That was the first time I got in touch with her,

but we probably first tried to record right in the middle of when I was sick,

and we were having all of those internet problems.

So I would, you know, I'd get online and then our internet would crap out.

And that happened three times.

And then the fourth time something else came up.

But anyway, we got there.

We got there in the end.

And I don't know whether anyone could hear the, I won't know until I edited it,

but the thunderstorm in the background while we're recording this.

Yep.

It's busting to shatter the windows.

Okay.

It's pretty dramatic.

Yeah.

But it is.

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