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The Man Enough Podcast

Hank Azaria’s Journey to Radical Accountability

The Man Enough Podcast

Wayfarer Studios LLC

Education, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Renowned voice actor Hank Azaria joins for a raw conversation about cancel culture, identity politics, and transformation. Hank bares all on facing controversy for voicing Apu on The Simpsons, evolving from the defensive hot seat to becoming a crusader against unconscious bias. Hank opens up about his learnings from the experience and his commitment to helping others shed harmful beliefs that may be holding them back from true human connection. Later, Hank's Human Solidarity Project co-founder, Dustin Washington, joins the conversation to share their vision for a more united and equitable world, working to create discourse on shattering societal norms around race and gender. Watch this episode on YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/wearemanenough Sign up for the Man Enough newsletter to get full video episodes and positive masculinity news every Monday: http://manenough.com/newsletter The Man Enough Podcast is produced by Wayfarer Studios and presented by Procter and Gamble, in partnership with Cadence13, an Audacy company. Timecodes: 05:32 - Hank wonders if he’s ‘enough’ as a father for his teenage son 10:45 - How Hank’s understanding of gender equity has grown 17:40 - Letting go of Apu 28:22 - Hank’s journey to accountability 39:35 - How do we get children of the next generation excited about social change? 45:34 - A healthy amount of shame can be a good thing 47:00 - Do we use our “blindspots” as an excuse? 53:58 - Hank is working to create human solidarity 59:45 - Dustin Washington and the Soul Focused Group 01:02:45 - How has racism impacted male friendships? Quotes: “Part of what motivated me to approach the Apu [situation] thoughtfully is: what am I going to say to [my son]? Someday he will be old enough to discuss this. What will I look him in the eye and say?” - Hank Azaria “There are good decent people out there that will not look under the hood, because of defensiveness because of ego.” - Jamey Heath “I think a lot of young boys are growing up feeling like they're the problem…you're not responsible for building the world we live in but you are responsible to change it.” - Liz Plank “We don’t have to have all the answers, we’re searching for the answers.” - Jamey Heath “Racism has created an artificial barrier that now lives in our subconscious, that keeps us from having the level of human connection that we should have, which allows us to come together and solve problems.” - Dustin Washington Support Man Enough Man Enough Newsletter: https://manenough.com/newsletter Man Enough book: https://manenough.com/books Boys Will Be Human book: https://boyswillbehuman.com Guest Socials HANK AZARIA Instagram: @hankazaria Twitter: @HankAzaria Human Solidarity Project HSP works to eradicate oppressive forces by creating opportunities at the individual level to unpack limiting beliefs and cultural conditioning. The HSP provides institutions with workshops to transform societal norms from racial inequity to human solidarity. Support Man Enough Man Enough Newsletter: https://manenough.com/newsletter Man Enough book: https://manenough.com/books Boys Will Be Human book: https://boyswillbehuman.com Follow The Hosts Justin Baldoni https://instagram.com/justinbaldoni https://www.tiktok.com/@justinbaldoni https://facebook.com/justinbaldoni https://twitter.com/justinbaldoni Text Justin: +1 (310) 845-6909 Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://twitter.com/feministabulous http://www.elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://twitter.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://www.jameyheath.com/ #boys #men #masculinity #thesimpsons #apu #hankazaria #accountability #voiceacting #mentalhealth #race #racialbias #racism #human #humansolidarity #healing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Coming up on Man Enough.

0:02.0

What happened to me with Apu was that got pointed out to me.

0:05.0

Your well-intentioned character that was very funny and made a lot of people laugh and won you

0:09.7

Emmys and helped create an iconic wonderful television show that had unintended

0:14.6

negative consequences and the fact that I was oblivious to it only underlined

0:19.6

how much I needed to look at. Am I going to keep doing this voice or not?

0:24.0

It wasn't so apparent to me what to do.

0:26.4

But she was now so defensive at first.

0:28.6

How could we not see race when it's there?

0:30.5

I think it's because we also chose to not look in the

0:33.4

direction where the light was. More damning at it, I was benefiting. Right. So why would I

0:39.0

bother to that's that's it. Being man enough, what does that mean?

0:46.0

It's really manly to mess up, admit you're wrong, and then grow.

0:50.0

I couldn't accept that I was evil.

0:52.0

So maybe I'm broken, but those broken things could be corrected

0:55.6

Intimacy between a father and a son is me just wanting to like put my head in your lap

1:00.3

I love your son

1:02.0

You haven't called me me benevolent sexist but my experience is women are better.

1:06.4

Even if it's a positive it's still not equality. I don't blame men for that. I just blame the system. This is man enough.

1:16.7

Hey everybody, welcome to the Mountain Of Podcast podcast. I'm Jamie Heath. I'm Liz Plank.

1:23.7

We're missing Justin Baldoni today. As many of you know already, he's taking a little break.

1:28.5

He's in the edit room, but he sends his love. Yes. And all that.

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