Leo, you did it.

Well, yes, I got the man I've been talking about for a while now. John Dessler, 90-year-old Holocaust Survivor. Welcome to the podcast. Thanks, man. Wow. Hey, it's great to be with you guys. Yeah, it's amazing. You know, I'm 90 years old. I hit 90 last October. And, Dino, you should get, you should work his mic. Make sure that mic's in front of his mouth and maybe prioritize that over the action cam or John, yeah, you're, what am I doing? You've got your what's about you. Yeah, you look and sound great for 90. I've done this kind of stuff before. Yeah, yeah, just talk right into like get pretty close. Over here. This is good. Yeah even closer if you don't mind just have that thing right up against you yeah there we go yeah

like that there we go all this good i'll listen to old nunc that sounds good were you speaking german

he was speaking german oh wow so you were you i guess we got a backup to the start let me

give you a little bit a little recap okay yeah a bio okay a bio yeah I was born in

Berlin Germany in 1931 and that was just two years before the Nazis took over the

country yeah and I had no idea of what was going on, obviously.

The first contact I had with any kind of Nazism was in 19, I was eight years old,

1938, 1939.

When the doorbell rang in the morning and they used to

have a joke, a dark, you talk about black humor.

And the joke was if your doorbell rings at six in the morning, the chances are that it's

not going to be the milkman.

And what they meant by that, it's the Gestapo to come in and, you know, probably arrest you, which they did with my father.

Yeah.

My father was a dental surgeon.

Wow.

And we were like, I guess you'd call it an upper middle class family in Berlin.

My mom had come from a German Jewish family that had lived in Germany for at least three generations from the mid-1800s, I suppose.

And we were Jewish, but you know, the German Jews were very different from Eastern Jews because they were much more

educated and they had been allowed into Germany already in the early 1800s, as opposed to many

other countries where they still lived in ghettos and they were segregated.

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