Handed Down Through the Ages | Interview: Allen Guelzo

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

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🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Historian and friend of The Remnant Allen Guelzo has taken a breather from battling for the soul of the West to argue with Jonah Goldberg about the American founding, Edmund Burke, and—horror of horrors—Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. Join Jonah and Dr. Guelzo as they explore Western civilization, barbarism, tradition, Marxism as romanticism, the Enlightenment, Locke, Lincoln, the great-man theory of history, and the fundamental cause of the Civil War. Show Notes:—The Golden Thread: A History of the Western Tradition Vol. 2—Previous Remnant with Allen Guelzo—John Courtney Murray: “The Return to Tribalism”—Georgios Varouxakis: The West: The History of an Idea—Secretary Marco Rubio delivers remarks to the Munich Security Conference—Jonah’s book: Suicide of the West—Walter Russell Mead: “The Enduring Impact of the Abrahamic Tradition”—The Lost History of Liberalism—Kristol: “The American Revolution as Successful Revolution”—Barbara Tuchman: A Distant Mirror The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.
0:18.0	Can you digger?
0:27.5	Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remedant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
0:32.8	We have the perfect guest today to talk about the Epstein filesiles and the recent Texas primary, but instead,
0:38.6	we're going to go a little bigger picture. This is his second appearance on essentially the same
0:43.3	book, but it's volume two, the golden thread, a history of the Western tradition, the modern
0:49.0	and contemporary West, so it starts in 1500 by our guest today, Alan Gelsso and his co-author James Hankins,
0:56.5	who took the lead on the first volume.
0:58.5	And Alan took the lead on this volume.
1:00.8	I just had a very interesting conversation with him.
1:02.9	He insists everything was written by him or by his co-author in the whole thing,
1:08.6	which means he woke up one morning and started,
1:12.0	that, okay, let me tackle Erasmus today or the revolutions of 1848. And then tomorrow I'll do
1:18.2	the cotton gin or whatever. But I want to be really clear, this is one of the most impressive
1:22.8	physical books I've seen come out in years. It's a lovely book. The first one is lovely too.
1:29.2	People know I encourage people to pick up the books of our authors who are on here, but I really,
1:35.1	like, this is a graduation present kind of thing. This is the kind of thing where you lock your
1:41.0	wayward 14-year-old boy in a shack and with enough food and water in this book
1:47.6	and say don't come out until August. There are profiles of countless figures from Western
1:53.9	history and the art, music, politics, obviously, philosophy, religion. It covers literally
1:59.1	everything since 1500. It's the kind of book you can pick up
2:02.4	at any time and just go down rabbit holes and I like rabbit holes. So I cautioned Alan before we
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