Hub and Spoke. Audio Collective.

This is Rumble Strip. I'm Erica Heilman. Sometimes I watch a fish eating fish, different sizes of fish and the bigger ones eating the smaller one

bigger ones eating the smaller it was on YouTube everything I procrastinated on mostly from

YouTube it started with the sardines, bigger fish like tuna come in and boom at the

ends this huge whale just scum everything altogether and all the millions of starting were just gone.

It's like the ending you didn't expect. This band is called The Little Tiger. This band is called the Little Tiger team.

Han Meame used to listen to them as a teenager in the early 90s. The first time I met Han we were standing on my deck in Vermont, she looked at the fields around my house and she said,

That's a lot of fields.

Have you ever thought of writing messages to airplanes?

I had not.

She also suggested to my friend Tobin that he consider installing a drain in his living room and buying all rubber furniture so he could clean the room down with a hose.

Han has lots of excellent ideas.

She's also a brain scientist.

She studies the nature of memory and prediction, and she's one of the smartest people

I've ever met.

Han grew up in a state-run compound in Guilin in Southeast China, in the

Guangxi province. The compound conducted research and produced electrical equipment, and

everyone who worked there lived there and shopped there.

The children were educated in schools there.

Han was born in 1984, soon after China had decided to open itself to more economic engagement with the outside world,

but she was also a second child when second children were not allowed in China.

We talked about growing up in China and what she learned about China after she left and why she's

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