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Pushback with Aaron Mate

Hamas negotiator on Israel's ceasefire violations and new barriers to Palestinian freedom

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

As Israel violates the ceasefire with relentless attacks on Gaza, The Grayzone’s Aaron Maté sits down with senior Hamas negotiator Basem Naim in Doha, Qatar. Naim survived the Israeli military’s attack on a gathering of Hamas officials in September. He discusses the UN-endorsed demand that Hamas disarm without a path to Palestinian self-determination; faltering efforts to unify Palestinian political factions; the bid to free political prisoners including Marwan Barghouti; the new Syrian government’s interdiction of weapons shipments to Hezbollah, and more. Guest: Dr. Basem Naim. Doha-based Hamas negotiator and former head of Gaza’s Health Ministry.

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0:00.0

Dr. Basim, thank you for joining me.

0:02.0

Please, welcome.

0:04.0

Right now, we're in the first phase of the so-called ceasefire.

0:08.0

During this period, Israel has killed more than 360 Palestinians.

0:12.0

It's not living up to its requirements when it comes to allowing in aid.

0:16.0

It's still blocking so many essential supplies.

0:19.0

Now there's a push to go to the second phase where Netanyahu says,

0:24.1

this is where Hamas will disarm,

0:26.4

and this is the main Israeli objective.

0:29.3

What to you is the state right now of the so-called ceasefire?

0:32.7

And will you disarm?

0:34.4

Will Hamas disarm during this second phase?

0:37.1

Thank you very much for having me with you here in Doha.

0:42.3

When we received Trampland at the beginning, it was clear for us that part of the requirements

0:50.3

are in the hands of Hamas and other resistance factions.

0:56.1

A lot of other issues are more or less general Palestinian issues.

1:02.3

Palestinians have to decide about it when it comes to the future of Gaza,

1:06.8

to the future of resistance, to the future of the statehood and all other issues.

1:12.8

Therefore, Hamas have signed the Sharma Sheikh deal based on this context, that this is what

1:24.1

we can do from the point of view of Hamas with other Palestinian

1:30.3

factions involved directly in the battle in Gaza Strip. And this was considered by the Americans,

1:39.3

by the mediators, as the face-face. When it comes to the first phase,

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