Hello everybody. This is Becoming the People and I'm Prentice Hemphill. I am currently on the road,

so please do forgive the audio of this introduction. The episode that follows does sound beautiful,

but I didn't want to miss a chance to give an intro to this episode where I'm talking to

Sindalo Di Amina, who is a dear friend of mine and is also one of the co-directors of the Carolina

Federation.

He's a strategist.

He's a poet.

He's a prophet.

And he's one of these people that I really trust to engage in an assessment of this time in a

really thoughtful way. I know for myself and for people that I've been around, there's been a

tendency to look at the pressure and intensity of this moment and either try to minimize or catastrophize

so that we can make some sense of what's happening.

But Sindolo has such a sober yet warm way, I think, of thinking through what this time is

about, what the forces are that are at play, and how we become even more human, I think, through this moment of

incredible repression. This is a really, really beautiful episode. I want you to pinky swear with me

right now that you listen to this whole episode because I think it is needed. It is a very

needed conversation. It is energizing for me to even

relisten to this episode. I get so much out of it. This is a good one to share with people that you

care about or listen to in community. And if you want to be a part of our community that's in

conversation, please join us over at the Patreon. And without further ado, hope you enjoy enjoy this episode i'm really excited to talk to you today you are to me just a really fascinating person to be in community with because there's i feel like you are living your life fully like you are really digging into the questions that you're

in. You're studying them. You're practicing in them. You're coming to conclusions. It feels like there's

such an awareness to the way that you live your life that to be able to be in conversation with you

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