Welcome to Nobody Told Me.

I'm Laura Owens, and I'm Jan Black.

On this episode, we are so thrilled to welcome back psychologist and author, Dr. Guy Wynch.

He's been with us twice before, and today he's here to talk about

why he's partnering with Mind Bloom, a leader in psychedelic therapy to develop a new program

for recovering from rejection and failure. Dr. Wynch is a leading advocate for integrating

the science of emotional health into our daily lives. His TED talk, How to Fix a Broken Heart, has been viewed nearly 16 million times,

and his books, including emotional first aid, have been translated into 28 languages.

Dr. Wich, thank you so much for joining us again.

It is my absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me.

We were really intrigued to read that you're involved in this new mind bloom program

to help people recover from rejection and failure, in part with the use of ketamine.

So tell us more about what ketamine is.

I think it's a drug that we're hearing more and more about these days, but what is it?

Well, we're definitely hearing more about psychedelics

and psychotherapy treatment these days as going together, or psychedelics for mental health

treatment as going, you know, in general, because there are trials now and they are being

submitted for FDA approval for things like psilocybin, which is a psychedelic, even MDMA.

Kermin has been approved for over 20 years, though.

It's the first one that was approved to treat depression and anxiety.

And usually that was done in the psychiatrist office.

You came, you got an infusion, et cetera.

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