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Well, hello, welcome again. I'm Tom Gresham, and yes, indeed, it's live. Yeah, it really is. After Christmas, after New Year's, we're back live. Yeah, we took a couple weeks off. We had to, well, we weren't going to make the staff come in here work on Christmas. I mean, I'm not screwed for heaven's sakes. But yeah, we're going to be talking about guns for the next three hours, and we're just going to be talking about guns with you and me. Because we have not been able to talk for a couple of weeks live, I've cleared the decks. We have no guests at all lined up for the next three hours. It's just going to be you and me. And the way you get in on this is you call us on our toll free number, 866825-5-4-86, or easier, file one than Tom Talk Guns. And that'll get you in here. Yeah, I'm Tom Gresham. If you want to know more about what we do here, you can check it out on the web. GunnTalk.com. We have videos at guntalk.tv. We have TV. We have

TV shows we produce. Everything we do is about guns. Now, a lot of what I want to talk about today,

and we'll kind of range around a little bit, but I want to keep this talking about safety a good bit and talking about

some things in the news.

We had, let's see.

And if you get my podcast, which you should, it's free for heaven's sakes, you know that I

went off on safety last week based on a couple of news stories.

One was an ATF agent, off duty, in New York.

He's in a pharmacy picking up cancer medicine for his elderly father. Okay, you got this? Off-duty

ATF agent in the pharmacy. While he's in there, a guy runs in there,

it says, this is a stick up, everybody gets your hands in the air. ATF agent puts his hands

in the air along with everybody else. But then positions himself, and after the guy has robbed

the place and is going out the door, the agent pulls his gun out and says, basically, police freeze.

And the robber makes a move.

And the robber makes a move like he's going to try to shoot him,

and the ATF agent shoots him, I guess, more than once.

And a guy runs out the door, falls down,

ATF agent runs out onto the sidewalk, and while he is

basically subduing him, two guys come from next door. One is a retired New York Police Department

officer, and one is an off-duty New York Police Department officer. And they come up, and it's interesting how the reports of this have changed over the last

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