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Guns in America and the Travel Ban that Went Unnoticed

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News Commentary, Politics, News

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2017

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In the wake of another American mass shooting, Dahlia speaks with Adam Skaggs, Chief counsel at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence about the Second Amendment. And as this week marks the one year anniversary of Donald Trump’s election to office, Becca Heller, co-founder of the International Refugee Assistance Project, joins to talk about how her job changed after the election. 

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0:00.0

And there's a poem called Home by this British Somali poet Worson Shire that I love to quote.

0:09.6

And there's a line in it that says, no one puts their child in a boat unless the water is safer than the land.

0:18.4

Hi, and welcome to Amicus Slate's podcast about the Supreme Court and the law.

0:23.4

I am Dahlia Lithwick.

0:24.7

I cover the courts and the law for Slate.

0:27.0

And this week marks the one year anniversary of the election of Donald Trump to the presidency.

0:35.8

Sit with that.

0:37.3

Later in the show, we're going to talk to Becca Heller.

0:40.0

She's co-founder of the International Refugee Assistance Project, or IRAP.

0:44.9

She actually briefly became the face of the entire lawyer's rebellion.

0:48.7

That iconic moment on January 27th of last year when, strange strangers it sounded at the time, thousands of Americans

0:56.0

descended on the nation's airports to yell, let the lawyers in. Not something we're

1:01.1

used to hearing. But lawyers have actually been the bulwark against so many parts of what is

1:07.4

most terrifying about Donald Trump and the attack on the rule of law.

1:11.5

So we just wanted to check in and see if Becca Heller is tired.

1:15.9

But first, before we do that, a serious point.

1:19.6

This week also marked yet another mass shooting when a man armed with an AR-556 rifle

1:25.4

entered First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, and proceeded

1:29.4

to butcher at least 26 people and injure 20 others, so many of them children. By the time you hear

1:36.2

this podcast, that may be old news to you, or maybe that shooting will have been superseded by

1:41.8

another. But while we spend unholy amounts of time in this country

1:46.3

debating and bickering over moments of silence in Congress or whether it's okay to tweet out our hopes

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