The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

Please visit our website at audiodderma.org. So I was at a family gathering this past weekend and I was one a member from extended family as a very adorable three-year-old and he was telling me that sometimes in the middle of the

night three-year-old wakes up and says,

gets his dad, says, Papa, Papa,

I'm so tired.

And something about, aside me think of meditation practice and I don't know what the

equivalent is but maybe it's something like Papa, how do I become aware?

Papa wears the darma, right?

Maybe there's more right here. I heard about a retreat some years ago. I don't know anything more about it than what I'll tell you, but it was a retreat and all of the practice was done laying down.

And the theme was something like awakening through the deepest relaxation.

And I think back then,

when I heard of it, I was well I don't know I don't know about that right but

there's probably something to that.

Speaking with a long time practitioner who described in a very lovely way a kind of something on retreat that happened and described it as a

sizable relaxation and that that lasted some days.

And

on the one hand we don't fetishize relaxation, tranquility gives the notion that tension is the enemy.

And on the other hand, on the other hand, tension,

or we could say non- is the signature of many different currents of

suffering. So we could say clinging is tension. We could say selfing is tension. We could say

selfing is tension, suffering is tension, greed is most definitely tension,

hatred is tension. Maybe, maybe, I don't know, maybe even delusion has its own kind of tension,

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