The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

Please visit our website at audioderma.org. You're going to. So hello and welcome and to our Friday meditation and we'll follow this with the short darma talk and then a

community meeting for those of you who would like to be part of it and we'll switch

over to Zoom and the Zoom link will be

posted here at some point. Maybe at the end at 745 I'll make sure it gets

posted so you can get over there and I'll say more about it later.

But welcome.

And one of the very rich and important kind of interactions or richness of Vipasana practice is the mutuality, the association, the inseparability of the experience we have and the knowing of the experience and the seeing of the experience and these two don't really exist so separate and together, we're seeing them

working together is one means to become free from it all, not get entangled,

not get reactive to what's being experienced, to what's being known.

Sometimes we emphasize knowing, seeing, sometimes we emphasize experiencing, sensing, feeling what's happening here and now.

And so for this meditation, you might want to

help us experience more clearly,

to feel what's happening more clearly.

And the purpose of experiencing something clearly is to know it

better until at some point these two don't really become two different things.

They becomes very, very simple and you can

almost hyphenate knowing, experiencing or experiencing knowing.

But the important point is that we're here to really be present in our present moment experience. And one of the ways to become wise in meditation

is to become wise about how we get separated from present moment experience,

either because we get distracted, caught up in thoughts,

or because we're making commentary and stories around what's happening.

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