Guest Name: Anatol Lieven • Affiliation: Eurasia Project Director of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft • Summary: The conversation critically examines a proposal for a Eurocentric security force in Ukraine, highlighting its practical unfeasi
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 5 September 2025
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• Affiliation: Eurasia Project Director of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft
• Summary: The conversation critically examines a proposal for a Eurocentric security force in Ukraine, highlighting its practical unfeasibility given European military limitations and domestic fiscal challenges, particularly in France. It suggests the proposal might be political grandstanding or a strategy to "trap" the US. Ukraine's strategy aims to wear Russia down to concede on demands, recognizing they cannot achieve a full military victory. continued
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| 0:24.0 | This is CBSI on the world. |
| 0:26.3 | I'm John Batchew with my colleague, Anatole-Levin, |
| 0:29.2 | leaving Ukraine right now. |
| 0:31.7 | We go to Paris, |
| 0:32.7 | where despite having a very sophisticated business understanding, |
| 0:37.0 | they're in debt. |
| 0:38.2 | And the prime minister wants to do something about it, which is to reduce spending in the simple version. |
| 0:43.4 | He is being rejected in the newspapers, and the expectation is he will lose a no-confidence vote come the new week. |
| 0:51.3 | And there'll be another quandary about what is to be done. |
| 0:54.0 | This is not dissimilar from |
| 0:55.3 | the debt load that weighs upon the U.S. Congress or the Parliament in London, and sometimes on |
| 1:01.8 | Berlin itself because of the promises made in the Hague. However, let's focus on France. What is the |
| 1:08.8 | significance of the government falling yet again? I think this is |
| 1:11.8 | PM 5 or 4 for Macron. Does this call into question Macron's leadership or does he ride |
| 1:18.7 | things out? We have a couple of minutes. Macron can write things out because he is the president |
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