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The Brian Lehrer Show

Guantánamo Bay in 2023

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🗓️ 11 September 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Carol Rosenberg, New York Times reporter discusses the politics and humanitarian conditions at play at the Guantánamo Bay detention complex, including the news that President Biden rejected a proposed deal by prisoners awaiting trial there for their alleged roles in the 9/11 attacks.

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0:00.0

I'm Brian Ler on WNYC on this September 11th, 2023, and now we turn to another consequence

0:18.1

of 9-11 that has been in the news lately, Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. military prison in

0:23.7

Southeastern Cuba, where people accused of crimes and connection with the 9-11 attacks

0:31.9

are being considered for a plea agreement that would spare them the death penalty but give

0:37.9

them life in prison. Last week, President Joe Biden rejected a list of conditions from

0:43.9

those Guantanamo detainees. The five men were seeking care for torture-related trauma

0:49.9

and to avoid solitary confinement, so far that aspect of a potential plea deal has been

0:56.0

rejected by the President. In March of last year, military prosecutors sought to make that

1:02.6

plea with the five men that would spare them death sentences for a guilty plea in their

1:08.1

alleged roles in aiding the 19 men who actually hijacked passenger planes and crashed them

1:13.6

into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a Pennsylvania field on September 11th,

1:18.5

2001. It's been 21 years since Guantanamo or Gitmo, as it's also known, was first used

1:26.0

to house primarily Muslim militants and suspected terrorists captured by U.S. forces, not just

1:32.4

who were related to 9-11, but in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other nations in the Middle East. Since

1:39.3

2002, roughly 780 detainees have been held at Guantanamo. Four years later, the Bush administration

1:46.1

came out with memos justifying what they called enhanced interrogation that other people

1:51.5

call torture. Certainly, human rights advocates call it that, Senator John McCain and Lindsey

1:58.0

Graham called it that, placing detainees outside of the U.S. and for those of you who don't

2:04.0

know the history, that's the whole point of Guantanamo Bay. It's outside the 50 states

2:10.5

or U.S. territories. Therefore, it allowed the Bush administration to circumvent many

2:15.8

legal and ethical regulations and practices, like holding prisoners indefinitely and without

2:22.6

charge, classifying them as terrorists, which puts them outside the protection of the Geneva

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