Welcome to part two of our conversation with Nathaniel Gillis.

According to the data, we're looking at consciousness.

Their consciousness possessing bodies, so they take the fetus and they possess it as their own.

This is why I call them the multers, right?

You can have one consciousness possessing five different bodies.

We call it possession. We just didn't know what it was. It was a way of self-replicating.

And we've seen this phenomenon occur over and over again. Betty Aluka, Betty andres

Luca was abducted and she asked them a loaded question thank God she asked them what

are all these grays that I see walking around and one of the entities looked at

her and said well these are the fetuses that were taking out of women why right

that's it's again they're taking babies and they're possessing them.

Now this gets into, again, it's high magic. High magic, like the darkest magic, worse than

Crowley and Parsons, worse than LeVay. These guys are actors compared to these entities.

When you get into what's called the red right, it starts to get clearer.

The red right was a ritual of high magic performed by sorcerers. What they would do is when their

body was disintegrating and deteriorating, they would go out and create a relationship with a woman.

Hello, Enkibai. Hello, UFO abduction phenomenon. And then they would inseminate her with a fetus.

Hello, missing fetus syndrome. And then they would leave their body and possess that fetus as a new vessel and they would host that skin.

That's why my second book is called The Skin That Crawls.

They would host that as a second self as a social skin.

Now they have something to possess and they possess it with their consciousness. That's

what I believe this is all about. That's what all of this is about. That's why we can have entities,

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