Today in the Grave Talks, darker than you ever imagined, a conversation with Nathaniel Gillis.

Nathaniel Gillis started life in a haunted house, a house that held a demonic entity, though.

At first it seemed to be an innocent little girl, quickly realized that this was something much darker.

Nathaniel has then dedicated his life to researching and finding out who, why, and just what is going on with these occurrences that he experienced as a child,

and why are they going on today for others in other homes all over the world?

His findings have been far darker than anyone could have ever conceived of.

Today we discuss his story on The Grave Talks.

It started when I was eight years old when I first encountered a full-bodied apparition.

I was living in a haunted house at the time, and I had nightmares.

I had shadow figures that were looking at me in the middle of the night.

And so that was my very first, I guess, confrontation with the phenomenon,

and that's where I first got my interest.

So tell me a little bit more about that experience.

What exactly, how did that transpire?

What was the scene?

So it first started out at the actual open house prior to us moving into the home.

My dad took me by the hand as an eight-year-old boy, and he led me into

what would become my future room. And he said, take a look around, figure out where you're

going to put your bed and your gaming system. Your mother and I are going to be in the kitchen

talking to the realtor. And so there I was looking around the room. And one thing that really

stuck with me is that even just being

in the room it smelled like something had died there like you know Dr. Barry Taff would call it

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