Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Marianne Sullivan, and this is Jasmine Singer. And on this week's show, Jasmine will be chatting with Amy Lubert, who is doing some really remarkable vegan advocacy in Des Moines, Iowa.

And a lot of us actually don't look to Iowa for leading edge vegan advocacy.

Obviously, it's a huge animal ag state.

And if that's you, and I worry some time that that's me, but then I yell at myself.

Because this interview will definitely turn your head around and remind all

of us that we are everywhere and progressive action for animals is growing by leaps and bounds

everywhere. And she and Jasmine will also be talking about Vegge Life Des Moines, the organization that

she founded and about her new enterprise, a vegan sex shop. So you definitely want to stay tuned.

This is a good one, right, Jasmine?

So good.

First of all, I love Amy.

Like, we've become friends in the past a year or so.

And I just, like, when I think of who is a great activist, she is one of the first few people that pops to mind. And I know that she's already listening, if she's listening to this, she's like already shaking her head and saying no and like blushing and putting her head in a bag. But that's like, she'll have to deal with that. This is a phenomenal interview. And I love the work she's doing in Des Moines. It's just so cool. Yeah. So we'll be getting

to that soon, but before we do, I know that I have previously been described as salty and now I have

even more reason to be considered salty. I'm not sure what it means when you call somebody salty, I will admit.

What does that mean?

I think it means like you've got an edge and you're a little biting and like a little

sarcastic.

I can see that.

I'm surprised I'm not more frequently described as salty that.

Okay.

I hope that she doesn't mind that I'm about to say this, but I was hanging out

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