If you face the grief, if you hit the grief, if you sit with it, it washes and then you get, okay, well, how can we enjoy the now?

But you have to sit with that grief to really even get to the present because the past is like knocking at your door.

I mean like, don't you miss me?

Hi, welcome back. This is Let It Out. I'm Katie Dielba out. We'll get us go. Another episode already.

A fresh episode. It's good to be back. How are you doing? Did you listen to Lily Allen's new album? Have you processed that yet? Have you read her interview and an interview magazine about it? What are you reading? What are you listening to? Is it dark out at 4 p.m.? Where you are? Have you survived the time change? Let me know. This week,

it's a long one. It's a new one. And if you were here last week, I re-aired an old episode

with Lacey Phillips, the founder of To Be Magnetic, which is relevant for what you're

about to hear with today's guest. If you don't know To Be Magnetic, Flynn's psychology,

neuroscience, and spirituality. And it's how I met Jessica Gill, who is the chief content officer at TBM.

And there's a new book out that Lacey wrote.

And Jessica also worked on it.

She helped design all the exercises within it.

And Jessica also co-hosts the expanded podcast with Lacey.

She's extremely good at helping people look at psychology and creativity and to shift their

perspectives in a way that can improve our lives. As you'll hear in just a moment,

she's really good at this. I tell her that a couple times throughout because she's helping me

unpack some of my feelings around this work and these techniques. And yeah, you're about to hear she's really really good at it we talk

about getting better at feeling and how actually feeling our feelings and letting them move through

us and processing them rather than constantly intellectualizing and talking about them, but actually taking action

and changing can be really important and something that I, as you'll hear, tend to struggle with.

We talk about everything from rock bottoms and ruts to grief, nostalgia, career evolution,

and Jessica shares a lot of practical advice around raising our self-worth, reconnecting to what true authenticity means for each of us

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