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Welcome everyone to a brand new episode of the mendron podcast.

As you know, in the mendron podcast, we talk about absolutely everything.

And today's episode is going to be, I think, Mr. Jennings, but for tough one.

For both of us, we're going to be talking about grieving.

When I say the word grieving, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

I mean, it's synonymous with death, isn't it?

It's synonymous with getting over a death of somebody that you love.

Is it death? Is it that?

For me, grieving is synonymous with death for me.

I think you can grieve for many things.

I don't think it always has to be death.

What the peak of it is, is it death.

And maybe this is a sign of a fairly privileged and lucky life.

But the only time I've really had to grieve, apart from very recently, in fact,

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