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Gangland Wire

Greg Scarpa: The Grim Reaper’s Double Life

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime, History

4.6647 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this gripping episode of Gangland Wire, retired intelligence detective Gary Jenkins sits down with author Jonathan Dyer to explore one of the most complex and dangerous figures in Mafia history—Greg Scarpa, the Colombo family enforcer known as The Grim Reaper.   Dyer, whose career spans military intelligence, law, and education, brings deep insight into Scarpa’s remarkable—and chilling—dual role as both a ruthless mob killer and a prized FBI informant. Together, they unpack the moral ambiguities, betrayals, and calculated violence that defined Scarpa’s career in the turbulent world of organized crime.  
Listeners will hear:  
How Scarpa balanced loyalty to the mob with his covert cooperation with the FBI.   The structured, almost corporate way his crew operated—and how he enforced discipline with fear and bloodshed.  
The darker corners of his personal life, including family ties, marriages, and the impact of his choices on his children. 
The violent episodes, such as the murder of Mary Bari, underscore his brutality and the Mafia’s code of protection.  
From Cold War–era law enforcement collusion to the inner workings of New York’s underworld, this episode reveals how Scarpa manipulated both sides of the law to maintain power.
Jonathan Dyer’s latest book, Greg Scarpa: Legendary Evil, offers the foundation for a conversation that will leave you questioning where law enforcement ends and organized crime begins.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, hey, welcome all you wiretappers. Good to be back here in studio of Gangland Wire. This is Gary Jenkins, a tired, Ken City, Missouri police detective, worked to organized crime unit or the intelligence unit for many years. And now I got a podcast. And we're all about the organized crime. As you guys know, all you regular guys and for new people, it's all about organized crime, particularly the Italian mafia in the United States.

0:23.7

Now, I have an author here today,

0:27.9

Jonathan Dyer, and Jonathan,

0:30.4

I really am excited about having you on here

0:33.2

because you have a different take about a much-cust

0:37.1

and disgust subject or person,

0:40.3

Gregory the Grim Reaper Scarpa.

0:42.4

So welcome, Jonathan.

0:43.8

Thanks, Gary.

0:44.3

Thanks for having me.

0:45.8

So tell the guys a little bit about yourself, a little bit about your background.

0:49.3

Where did you come from other than Marshall?

0:50.7

We found out we have similar backgrounds, Marshall, Missouri, rural

0:55.4

Missouri, farm life, and Kansas City. So tell the guys a little bit about yourself.

1:00.4

Well, in 1981, Gary, joined the Army and spent about a year and a half in Monterey at the

1:07.2

Defense Language Institute learning Russian. After that, went to good fellow Air Force Base for some cryptologic training.

1:13.6

And then after that, went to the National Security Agency in Fort Meade for some more training

1:18.6

and then shipped overseas to Berlin for three years, trying to keep tabs on the Soviet Army during the Cold War.

1:25.6

After the Army, I entered law school at UC Davis in California,

1:31.8

and after law school, I practiced law for about 10 years as a civil litigator. And then in 1999,

1:39.4

I switched careers and became a teacher and taught government and U.S. history and criminal law

1:45.4

and retired during the pandemic. And now I live in central Texas. Interesting.

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