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🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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0:00 The return of the “speech is violence” argument
6:05 Who’s the arbiter of “misinformation” and “disinformation”?
8:06 The University of Virginia topped FIRE’s college free speech rankings
14:08 The Victorianism of the Woke
22:10 The comedian as gadfly
24:40 Do we need to “protect” Jewish students from pro-Palestine speech?
31:23 Harvard Derangement Syndrome
37:13 FIRE’s defense of Amy Wax
39:59 Using Title IX to restrict speech
46:24 Complicating the left-right speech distinction
49:34 FIRE enters the AI debates
Recorded June 2, 2025
Links and Readings
Greg and Nancy Strossen’s forthcoming book, War on Words: 10 Arguments against Free Speech—and Why They Fail
Lisa Feldman Barrett’s 2017 NYT op-ed, “When Is Speech Violence?”
FIRE’s 2025 College Free Speech Rankings
FIRE’s Scholars Under Fire Database
Rajiv Sethi’s post, “Under Fire”
Glenn’s forthcoming book, Self-Censorship
Musa al-Gharbi’s book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite
Greg and Rikki Schlott’s book, Canceling the American Mind: How Cancel Culture Undermines Trust, Destroys Institutions, and Threatens Us
The IHRA definition of antisemitism
Steven Pinker’s NYT guest essay, “Harvard Derangement Syndrome”
Greg’s Atlantic essay, “Trump’s Attacks Threaten Much More Than Harvard”
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0:23.5 | Hello, everybody. This is Glenn Laurie, and you are listening to and or watching The Glenn Show. |
0:29.9 | I am with Greg Lukianov, who is the president and CEO of Fire, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, |
0:41.3 | which advocates for freedom of inquiry and speech on American College campuses and elsewhere. |
0:48.3 | Welcome, Greg. |
0:49.3 | Thanks for having me, Glenn. It's good to see you. |
0:51.3 | You're welcome. |
0:52.3 | I hear you've got a new book coming out with Nadine Strausson. |
0:55.5 | You want to talk about that for a minute or two? |
0:57.7 | Absolutely. |
0:58.4 | Yeah, it's coming out on July 1st. |
1:00.4 | It's called The War on Words. |
1:02.5 | And it's an updating of a series I used to do for my blog, |
1:07.8 | The Eternally Radical Idea, for my blog, the eternally radical idea, where Nadine and I answer what I consider to be kind of |
1:13.4 | bad arguments against freedom of speech that won't die. So whether or not speech is violence, |
1:19.2 | for example, whether or not speech is a conservative cause, and then we do about 10 of them in the |
1:26.2 | course of it, just so people will have handy, |
1:29.3 | you know, good refutations of these arguments. |
1:33.3 | I call them bad arguments. |
1:34.8 | Nadine is always like, well, you know, like we should always take critics seriously, |
1:38.3 | so we don't call them bad arguments. |
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