Hello and welcome. I'm Isabella Franco from Counterbalance and you are listening to

EU Watchdog Radio. This is the new season of our monthly podcast and with it you will hear some new voices.

I'm the new communication and advocacy intern and my colleague Laura Verhek has joined us as the new policy of Syria

counterbalance. Across Europe, the debate around green hydrogen is growing fast. Clean hydrogen

is a perfect means towards our goal of climate neutrality. It can power heavy industries,

propel our cars, our trucks and our planes, it can store seasonal energy or heat up our homes, and all of this with almost zero

emissions.

Those are the beautiful promise of Ursula vananderlay, the president of the European Commission.

But so far we haven't proven that we can really use hydrogen for all those things.

But what we know is that we can transport hydrogen using gas pipelines

and continues being dependent on fossil foods industry.

And the gas industry loves this.

In today's episode, Laura speaks with Hickama Basha Gour, who is an assistant professor

in the CD Mohamed Ben-Habdel University in Fais, Morocco.

And together with Manafam movement wrote a powerful report about the development of the green hydrogen sector in Morocco. And together with Manafem movement wrote a powerful report about the development of the

green hydrogen sector in Morocco and how it could affect vulnerable communities, women and gender

minorities, who are too often left out the decision-making process. Let's get into it. Across Africa, a large-scale renewable energy project,

such as hydropower, solar and biofuels, are often supported

by European policies and investments.

Yet, many of these projects have been criticized for reinforcing structural imbalances in energy

covenants, serving European interest, while undermining African energy sovereignty.

How do you view this dynamic, especially in the Moroccan context?

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